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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 22-12-2013 13:52:10 
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Nauja programa CATfix:

CATfix OPTIONS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Switching between the IF Filters when using SPLIT:

CATfix monitors the radio’s TF-SET button, and (optionally) toggles
between IF Filter A and IF Filter B when you press and release the
button. This is especially useful when chasing a rare DX station that is
working split – you can set up a narrow filter to listen on the DX
station’s TX frequency and a wider filter to monitor around your own
TX frequency, then automatically toggle between the two filters as you
press and release TF-SET.

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2. Setting up the radio for digital operation:

CATfix provides several options that help set up the radio for digital
operation. These options let CATfix automatically:

*** Turn off Auto Information, to prevent overloading the input to
application programs.
*** Lock the radio's front panel, to prevent accidental changes.
*** Set the power level (typically to a few watts).
*** Turn off the audio processor.
*** Switch both VFOs to upper sideband.

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3. "Fixing" the "TX" command:

CATfix has an option to change the "TX" (or "TX0") CAT command issued by
an application program (such as MMTTY or Ham Radio Deluxe) to "TX1".
This ensures the radio uses the TX audio that is input to the USB or
ACC2 port, rather than via the mic socket.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All of these options are individually configurable.

CATfix was written specifically for the TS-590S, but most of the
functions should also work with other Kenwood radios, including the
TS-990S and TS-2000 (and possibly others).

CATfix does not require any changes to application programs, other than
changing the COM port they usually use to communicate with the radio.
There is no need to apply any software patches. You run application
programs in exactly the same way as usual.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-590s.htm
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 06-12-2013 13:16:12 
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Jei gerai suprantu, aktualiausia DXpedicijoms. Tai arba leidžia, arba patobulina dirbant split, pvz. šaukiant CQ keisti kito VFO (RX) dažnį.
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 06-12-2013 13:01:06 
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Vyteni, gal paaiškintum 1 dalį, nesuprantu apie ką eina kalba.

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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 06-12-2013 12:44:25 
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Naujas TS-590 firmwaras:
Updated items : (Version 1.07 1.08) [December 6, 2013]
  Updates the following feature.
 
1. Enables the operator to change "tuneable VFO while transmitting in split-frequency operation" from TX VFO to RX VFO.
By pressing [SPLIT] + Power On, after the Power-on message appears, a decimal point blinks a few times at the left of the main 7-segment display.
The function can be deactivated by Powering Off and then pressing [SPLIT] + Power On again.
(Please also update the Radio Control Program ARCP-590 which includes this new function.)
  Revises the following symptoms.
 
1. If the radio is in split-frequency operation and a PC command of Band Change is sent to the transceiver, the transceiver will sometimes not transmit.
2. Band memory may not be backed up correctly in VFO B.

Bent jau mums atrodo nėra labai aktualus. Taip pat atnaujinta ARCP-590 programa:
altUpdate History
  Ver.1.03 (December 06, 2013)
alt Enables to select "TX" or "RX" from "Tunable Frequency during Split TX" in the TX/RX pull-down menu.
* Please also update the TS-590S firmware to Ver.1.08 includes this new function.
alt Revised the help file.
alt Adds Windows® 8 compatibility.
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 30-11-2013 10:28:23 
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TS850 is an excellent rig, especially loaded with the ganged IF filters, AND the Inrad roofing filter mod.  It is a great deal used, but only those manufactured in 1995 (50,000,000 series S/N) and 1996 (60,000,000 series S/N), the last year produced.  These last two years produced have the new and improved DDS chips, which are much better than the earlier ones that failed, along with better electrolytics on the carrier board that leaked on the earlier models.  Rob Sherwood mentioned the specs on the TS850 with the Inrad roofing filter mod as being an improvement over one without it, in his presentation at Dayton, but I don't see those figures on the list.

The TS590 is a very good rig, but as the list shows, above 20m the narrow spaced dynamic range is somewhat poorer due to upconversion being used, versus 20m and below using downconversion.  The TS590 is easy to use.  It has two excellent NB's and two NR systems, and it's DSP filtering is great, down to 50Hz.  It is reasonably small and light.  I've used it at Field Day and the only thing that it can't handle is one of the other station rig's TX wideband noise that no rig can handle.

The TS990 is good but large, heavy and expensive as you said.

I have both the TS590 and the TS850 loaded with filters and the roofing filter mod.  I like them both, they are slightly different, but operate similarly because they both are Kenwoods.  I highly recommend either.

I'm waiting for Kenwood to bring out, say, a TS890 that would be between the TS590 and the TS990.

Just my 2 cents, YMMV.

73, Gerry, K8GT
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 29-11-2013 21:07:25 
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Your comment on TS850 vs TS590 contradicts what the table shows. The TS590 is much higher up on the list.

73,
Steve, N2IC
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I haven't used the 590 in a contest, only in casual operation. I like it
and it is indeed easy to use. If your operators can not tolerate learning
anything new or making an occasional mistake, it is worth considering. The
narrow-spaced dynamic range per Sherwood is poor but the other specs
compare well with the K3. It is small and inexpensive.

GL & 73,

/Rick N6XI
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For the money the 590 is a great rig.

I don't know much about the new Yaesu 1200 price or performance.

Mike W0MU
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 29-11-2013 19:05:35 
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Jukka dar turėjo pridėti: "My personal opinion"
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 29-11-2013 18:59:17 
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CQ-Contest "auksinės mintys":
TS850 is better than TS590, but not available anymore.
In a Multi TX environment one should not pick anything in the lowest
quartile of
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
The top quartile is expensive, bulky or difficult to use - pick any two or
maybe all three.
The surprise radio amongst these is IC730 if you can find any that are in
good shape
73,
Jukka OH6LI
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Winner TS-590 S
> 1.  Sit down and use it, no unusual knob turns, low learning time.
> 2.  Standard operation on these factors, simple.
> 3 and 3.  Small and cheap.
>K3, can not sit down and use immediately, each radio has multiple
> programming and, one mistaken push in the middle of contest and THAT radio
> is DIFFERENT.
> Yaesu, all too big above FT 450d which is just not for this application.
> ICOM 7600, too quirky to learn quickly;  7100 too weird and is this a
> contest radio?
> Ten Tec Eagle... who knows? and ORION too big.
>
> So, easy answer.  Good Luck, 73, Charly HS0ZCW
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Looking for the ideal HF rig for a one-time 6 band  field-day MM setup.
> > Run+mult stations, so about 12 HF rigs in total.
> > All 160-10m stations using the same rig. All with external filtering. All
> > with additional PA.
> >
> > Requirements:
> >
> > 1) Simple to use interface
> > No learning curve, anyone can learn operating this rig at contest level
> > within an hour.
> > Any required fine adjustments, make that *problems*,  in the field for
> the
> > whole MM setup needs to be easy.
> >
> > 2) No quirks.
> > No unsolvable issues like leading spike at PTT.  No horrible high phase
> > noise.
> >
> > 3) Small & lightweighted, can withstand some rough handling during travel
> > Must fit in suitcase.
> >
> > 3) Price level must be very low.
> > Any additional tips for buying and selling the rigs after the FD contest?
> >
> >
> > Your answer, based on you own or club experience (no textbook/performance
> > lists wars) will be much appreciated !
> >
> > 73 Mark, PA5MW
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 30-10-2013 17:24:12 
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Apie USB DVK TS-590S.
http://rk.vdu.lt/technika/102-sistuvai-imtuvai/488-dvk-nustatymas-kenwood-ts-590s-transiveryje?lang=lt
Deja, truputį pavėluotai. CQWW SSB dirbome senoviniu metodu.
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 09-03-2013 22:21:29 
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N2IS rašo apie TX blokavimą:

Has anyone found a way to add a transmit inhibit to the TS-590S ? The idea is to implement a lock-out capability in a multi-transmitter environment. Most modern radios have an input line the allows the transmitter to be inhibited, whether using PTT or VOX. I don't see such a capability with the TS-590S. I have a few ideas on how to implement this, but thought it would be good to see if anyone has already done this. 73, Steve, N2IC
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 09-02-2013 14:57:53 
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I agree. Now that there are ten or more radios with more than enough close-in
dynamic range, other issues need improved. Almost all the rigs run on 13.8
volts, and almost all have similarly mediocre transmit IMD. A PA running on 32
to 50 volts would be a good start, but even the old IC-781 that runs on 32 volts
is only modestly better than typical transceivers. It is stunning that the new
Flex 6000 line will still run on 13.8 volts.

Transmit IMD is complex in that it varies from band to band, and also varies
into complex impedances, such as real antennas as opposed to dummy loads. Third
order products on some bands are often lower than the general pattern of
odd-order products, so one really need to look at 3rd through 9th order.
Testing with white or pink noise is also a very effective way to look at the IMD
spectra. Most rigs today are only down 60 dB 5 kHz from the edge of the
transmit passband. Thus the reason very high close-in dynamic range on SSB is a
non-issue since the problem is the undesired adjacent signal's transmit
bandwidth, not the intermod in the receiver.

ALC can enter into the equation, such as the Yaesu line of rigs where they
purposely do speech processing in the ALC. This makes the IMD worse than a lab
measurement if the lab measurement was made with no ALC and no processing. In
the case of the Yaesu class A rigs, the numbers can go from excellent to very
mediocre with only 3 dB of ALC and modest processing. So a single publication
of transmit IMD on one band, or supposedly the worst case band, isn't the whole
story.

ALC induced splatter needs to be considered since a steady-state two-tone test
doesn't approximate real speech. White noise testing with some modest ALC will
show some of the ALC problems. ALC overshoot can be much worse on SSB than on
CW, which seems odd. This subject has been discussed on this reflector, and is
still an issue with the TS-590S.

Next problem on my annoyance list is how most DSP rigs badly exaggerate impulse
noise, particularly with SSB bandwidth filters. An old analog radio, like a
C-Line, S-Line, old Icoms, etc. will barely react to an impulse noise, where
almost all DSP rigs today will drastically over react to a 1 microsecond "tick,
click or pop". The S meter may well kick up to S7 or ever worse when the analog
rig's S meter will barely move. All new Icom and Yaesu rigs have this problem,
as do most Ten-Tec. Elecraft has programmed around this issue to a large
extent, as has Flex. I won't buy a radio that requires me to run the noise
blanker to compensate for the fact that the AGC is no good.

Clean receive audio is high on my list of importance, since it is very tiring to
listen to crummy audio, even if the listener isn't aware of what is happening.
The K3 when it first shipped was awful in this respect with all sorts of
distortion products from 3 to 10 kHz. There is nothing to mask all that
distortion that is fall outside the information passband, yet for decades all we
had published was how many watts the amp (usually around 2 watts) put out at 10%
distortion. Finally I got the League to publish the harmonic distortion at 1
volt RMS. That is part of the story, but IMD is also very important on the
receive side. Elecraft has improved the K3, but it still has rather harsh audio
unless one uses an external audio amp and external speaker.

Crappy receive audio is nothing new, as shown by me having to fix not only the
Drake R-4C for 30+ years, but also the S-Line had a screwed up product detector
and AGC that made the audio quite harsh. If a radio is going to run on 13.8
volts, it cannot put out more than a couple watts with a single-ended audio amp.
An in-band two-tone test on receive really shows what is going on if the tone
frequencies are chosen properly. (I use 800 Hz and 1300 Hz) An audio spectra
full of distortion can sound terrible even if most of those individual products
are down 50+ dB, particularly if the odd-order products go out to 10 kHz or
more.

Ergonomics range from darn good to awful. It can take four to eight operations
to adjust the power level into a linear on the FT-950 or FTdx-3000. This is
nuts, but gets through engineering some how. I wonder if design engineers today
ever operate the rigs that they design.

It is good to see that it is possible for an OEM to produce a radio with low
phase noise, as seen by the KX3. If you have a nearby neighbor on the air, or
are operating Field Day, the poor phase noise of many radios is a big problem.
Only recently has the League started publishing Reciprocal Mixing Dynamic Range
again after virtually ignoring that subject from 2007 through 2012.

I don't know how one puts all these complex issues in a table, but there
certainly is lots of room for improvement now that we have many radios that will
perform well in a CW pile-up.

73, Rob, NC0B
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 08-02-2013 16:14:33 
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Yahoo nuoroda praso registracijos ...

patikslink nuoroda ..

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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 08-02-2013 16:11:05 
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Čia http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KenwoodTS-590/message/15699 Rob Sherwood NC0B kalba apie naujus gerus ir nelabai transiverius, apie naujus iššūkius. Kam įdomu, kas mokate angliškai, pasiskaitykite.
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 20-08-2012 19:18:25 
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/ts-590s.htm

Hint of the week #10 - Grafiškai pavaizduotas TS-590 ekvalaizerio darbas. Trumpas moralas toks: Jei yra TS590, nereikia jokių Audacity. apie viską jau pagalvojo Kenwood'as. Tik mokėkime protingai viskuo naudotis.
Priminsiu, ekvalaizeris nustatomas per ARCP-590, yra net keletas jo profilių.
O čia http://www.w1aex.com/ts590s/ts590s.html ne tik yra aprašyti eksperimentai su įvairiais ekvalaizerio nustatymais, bet ir šiaip įdomos informacijos. pvz. elektretinio kondensatorinio mikrofono pajungimas prie trcvr.
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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 06-08-2012 16:49:56 
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kai susivienodins mikrafai visose garniturose.. tada sita problema turetu isnykti...

viena karta susiderinai ir viskas...

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 Tema :Re:TS-590 klausimai.. 02-08-2012 15:29:02 
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Gal pravers. Apie TS-590 kompresoriaus naudojimą.



    • Kai PROC įjungtas (ON), įprastinis MIC GAIN nustatymas (prieš įjungiant PROC ON) negalioja, nesvarbu koks buvo nustatymas.
    • CAR(CARRIER) nustatymas negalioja SSB modoje. Nesvarbu PROC ON ar OFF. Jis galioja tik AM, CW ir FSK.
      • You should not run per the book for the CARRIER setting on CW. The 590 has ALC overshoot.
        To completely get away from this on CW only, set it up by the book at full
        power, with ALC showing. Then, key the rig and back the ALC off (with CARRIER
        control) until there is no ALC showing on the meter, but power remains 100W.
        This setting will, or should be, lower than when the ALC goes to zero on the
        meter. This removes ALC overshoot completely, and leads to a much nicer signal
        to listen to. If you have a modern amp, you won't see the overshoot as it keys
        up the first time after the VOX relay or ptt drops. Speaking of amps, the ALC
        overshot still occurs if you are running less than full power.
        For instance, set for 25 watts output, there is sill overshoot to the point
        where the amp spikes up to about 20% higher than key down with ALC set normally.
        If you are running at the high end of your amp, it may do damage to your amp, or
        at least trip the over-power protection.



Tinkamas kompresoriaus (PROC) nustatymas:

 

    • Spaudžiant [PROC (LEV)] Įjungti PROC ON. "PROC" atsiranda displėjaus dešinėje.
    • Nuspausti ir palaikyti [PROC (LEV)] mygtuką, displėjuje atsiras PRO.I užrašas (Proc Input level)
    • Nuspausti PTT, šnekėti normaliu balsu. Lygį derinti su MULTI/CH maždaug 10dB ant COMP skalės. Turėtų gautis ~40%-60%.
    • Nuspausti ir palaikyti [PROC (LEV)] iki išeisite iš PRO.I režimo.
    • Nuspausti [MIC (CAR)] mygtuką. Displėjuje atsiras PRO.O (Proc Output level)
    • Nuspausti PTT, normaliai kalbant lygį derinti su MULTI/CH maždaug per 1/2 ALC skalės. Turėtų gautis ~30%-50%
    • Išėjimui iš šio režimo vėl paspausti [MIC (CAR)]

 Du kompresoriaus variantai

 Naudojant kompresorių, galimi du jo veikimo lygiai SOFT ir HARD (šis įjungtas pagal nutylėjimą). SOFT atveju signalas mažiau spaudžiamas, iškraipymai dėl kompresijos beveik neįmanomi. HARD atveju signalas spaudžiamas daugiau, galimi nedideli signalo iškraipymai dėl kompresijos. Variantai perjungiami:

    • Spaudžiame [MENU], tuomet [Q-M.IN]/ [Q-MR] arba su MULTI/CH surandame meniu punktą 29
    • Spaudžiame [M.IN]/ [SCAN (SG.SEL)] ir pasirenkame norimą kompresoriaus režimą: SOFT arba HARD.
    • Spaudžiame [MENU] ir išeiname iš meniu režimo.

 

Ir dar vienas galbūt naudingas patarimas. Šį kartą ne apie kompresorių.

CW signalo priekinis frontas gali būti parenkamas vienas iš keleto siūlomų variantų. Tai daroma taip:

    • Spaudžiame [MENU]. Po to [Q-M.IN]/ [Q-MR] arba sukame MULTI/CH iki surandame meniu punktą 35.
    • Spaudžiame [M.IN]/ [SCAN (SG.SEL)] ir pasirenkame vieną iš reikšmių: "1", "2", "4" arba "6" (Reikšmė "6" - fabrikinė, pagal nutylėjimą)
    • Reikšmė "6" gerai tinka lėtam ar vidutiniam telegrafui. Greitam telegrafui ( = varžyboms) tinkamos reikšmės "1", "2" arba "4"

CW Prasiklausymas

AF reguliavimas nekeičia CW prasiklausymo lygio, kuris mano galva dažniausiai yra par didelis. tam reikia naudoti MENIU 04 ir vietoj standartinės rekšmės "5" parinkti mažesnę.


VGS-1 panaudojimas su Win-Test programa


Vidinio TS-590 magnetofono VGS-1 panaudojimas su Win-Test programa aprašytas http://5tx.de/?p=998
Yra apribojimų ir išlygų:
- Iš klaviatūros neveikia Auto CQ
- AutoCQ nutraukiamas tik su Esc klavišu
- Įrašo kokybės klausimai

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cia gali buti is naujos partijos... musiskiai yra pagaminti apie naujus metus...  kazka uzmirso prilituoti...:)

del galiniu.. tai negalima daryti greitas apsaugas.. per cw sudirbines pastoviai... lempos visas perkrovas suvalgo paprastai.. viskas i siluma... del spektrines dalies.. teoriskai turetu pasimatyti.. bet kiek tai yra svarbu ..?? kas ziures uz kokiu 1T kilometru taviski spektra...??  cia tik vietiniu trugdziu kitam bandui problema...

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 Tema :Re:TS-590 jautrumas.. 31-05-2012 15:29:38 
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Spėjau pasižiūrėti į Newsgroupus.
Tai pas mus labai sėkmingi modeliai. Nes ne vien tas vokietis bet ir kiti turi "power spike" ~30%. Pvz.:

TS-590S bought new 7 weeks ago, Firmware updated to v1.06
Pout = 100Wpep (measured with Drake power meter and scope) @ 3.7MHz.

Test methode:

TX output is fed to a Tektronix oscilloscope through a 40dB power-attenuator. A single CW-dit is transmitted and the RF envelope is observed on the scope being triggered on the front porch of the RF puls.

Test result:
Rise time = 2ms
Envelope overshoot = 13.6% corresponds to 1.11dB, i.e.
P(overshoot) = 129W decaying to 100W within 2ms.
73, Robert (HB9BCZ)
Be šito HB9 yra ir nemažai kitų, kurie šią problemą mini.
Tiesa, aš nesu tikras, kad mūsų PA yra tokios greitos reakcijos ir spėtų į tai sureaguoti.

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Jei dalykai jau žiūrinėti-čiupinėti tai, žinoma reikalas baigtas.
Ar suveikia PA apsauga priklauso nuo stiprintuvo greitaeigiškumo, reakcijos. Vieni gali sureaguoti, kiti - ne.

P.S. Užsirašiau net į dvi Kenwood TS-590 naujienų grupes. Pažiūrėsim ar yra ten kas įdomaus.




[Gintaras (LY5Y) 31-05-2012 13:01:20]:

kazkoksai neaiskus aparatas pas vokietukus... 

sitoki daikta tai tikrai buciau pastebejas...  o buvo ziurima ir ssb forma ir cw paketai...

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kazkoksai neaiskus aparatas pas vokietukus... 

sitoki daikta tai tikrai buciau pastebejas...  o buvo ziurima ir ssb forma ir cw paketai...

nesukite galvos... jeigu tai tikrai yra .. toki daikta tai tikrai galima per softa sutvarkyti .. ir kenwoodas tai tikrai padarytu...

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